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=== Existing Technologies: Required Work and Studies ===
 
=== Existing Technologies: Required Work and Studies ===

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Goals: There are three goals for this session: (1) to identify requirements for cold lenses and polarization modulators; (2) to sketch the status of current technologies; and (3) to identify what work needs to go on to ready the technologies needed for CMB-S4.

Cold Optics

Requirements

Current optical designs using cold lenses include: BICEP/ Keck style refractors using lenses up to ~60 cm in diameter; POLARBEAR/Simons and SPT-3G style lens-fed telescopes using large diameter (>45 cm) lenses; and the ACTPol lens-fed telescope that uses multiple optics tubes each comprised of three smaller lenses (< 45 cm) to feed multiple detector arrays. The Simons Array, SPT-3G and AdvACT are all going to use multichroic detectors with ratio bandwidth up to 3:1. The full S-4 instrument is likely to cover 20-300 GHz. At this point all three designs are candidates for CMB-S4.

Questions for discussion:

  1. Do these designs encompass all the design space we need to consider to set requirements on cold dielectric optics?
  2. What are the tradeoffs between the POLARBEAR / SPT-3G approach for large telescopes versus the ACTPol approach?
  3. What are the requirements?
  • Bandwidth requirement?
  • 3:1 is natural based on the multichroic polarimeters, but 5:1 might be desirable if multiple types of detectors are behind a single set of lenses. Debate:
  • Emissivity requirement?
  • Mapping speed is roughly linear in optical efficiency. How much can we tolerate? This depends on the optical design.
  • How do we specify the requirements on polarization transfer and its frequency dependance?
  • What simulations do we need to answer this? What do different experiments show on this front?
  • What are the requirements for the control of reflections?
  • this is related to the optical efficiency, ghosting, and cross-polarization. It is design dependent. What do different experiments show? What do we do to answer this?
  • Scattering?
  • what are the requirements on scattering?
  • Other requirements?

Existing Technologies: Required Work and Studies

What are the existing technologies and where do they stand?

  • loaded epoxy coatings and alumina and silicon lenses
  • metamaterial coatings on silicon lenses
  • Other approaches?

Polarization Modulators

Bold Statement: we need polarization modulators to maximize the return from low ell. Debate.

Requirements

Existing Technologies

Required Work and Studies